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My Very Provisional List of COVID Anomalies, Red/ False Flags and Clear Indications of Scumbaggery. LIHOP, MIHOP Or HOAX/SCAM? Def Not As Described. Need Your Help To Source References and Links For Existing Categories And Add New Ones. This is WOEFULLY INCOMPLETE. I Know I've Missed Tonnes...Ideas?

My Very Provisional List of COVID Anomalies, Red/ False Flags and Clear Indications of Scumbaggery. LIHOP, MIHOP Or HOAX/SCAM? Def Not As Described. Need Your Help To Source References and Links For Existing Categories And Add New Ones. This is WOEFULLY INCOMPLETE. I Know I've Missed Tonnes...Ideas?
Here’s my Top 22 list of suspicious shenanigans and red flags surrounding the COVID narrative:

  1. The Imperial College Death data - Neil Ferguson and Gates-funded Imperial College, London Model that ‘persuaded’ Johnson and Trump to lockdown. 500K deaths in UK and 2.2m deaths projected in US, EVEN WITH LOCKDOWN. Less than 10% accuracy but 110% alarmist, and evidence that the coding was deliberately flawed and designed to inflate numbers. Gates funding everyone involved in the staged 'debacle'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164121/Professor-predicted-500-000-Britons-die-coronavirus-accused-having-patchy-record.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/coding-led-lockdown-totally-unreliable-buggy-mess-say-experts/
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-controls-british-government-response-covid19-part-one
https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/
Ferguson, with a terrifyingly consistent track record for hyping minor viruses that fail to transpire into pandemics (Swine Flu, Bird Flu, BSE etc), failing upwards as a ‘safe pair of hands‘.
https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/08/so-the-real-scandal-is-why-did-anyone-ever-listen-to-this-guy/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11565369/useless-professor-neil-ferguson-antonia-staats/
EDIT: I‘ve reposted, but thought I’d put back the 95% that disappeared some minutes ago....
2) Ferguson’s blasé attitude to his affair during lockdown - clearly not too worried for his lovers’ family, if he genuinely believed COVID was a threat. No "error of judgement", just a man who knew there was nothing to fear.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/06/ministers-hypocrisy-over-neil-ferguson-lockdown-affair
3) Hospitals cleared of patients in readiness for a pandemic that never came. Desperate for cash, doctors and nurses were financially incentivised to put down patients dying with/ of COVID on death certificates to gain payments. In US $13,000 per patient, and $39,000 per patient on ventilator etc.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/72070/this-is-how-much-hospitals-are-making-if-patients-have-coronavirus/index.html
Footage of empty hospitals worldwide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrJ9yaUOVKs
Nurses furloughed, sent home for suspected virus without testing. Nurses - with nothing better to do - on TikTok etc:
Nurses slammed for filming TikTok showing them carrying coronavirus 'body-bag':
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/nurses-slammed-filming-tiktok-showing-21960411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHU6MtPVqQ etc
4) Games played with age and numbers, proof that only the elderly and very sick elderly were dying, but less of pneumonia and flu than in previous years. Median age of 79 in US and 82 in UK. Meanwhile whole country on lockdown.
"The median age of the deceased in most countries (including Italy) is over 80 years (e.g. 86 years in Sweden) and only about 4% of the deceased had no serious preconditions. The age and risk profile of deaths thus essentially corresponds to normal mortality."
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
https://medium.com/wintoncentre/what-have-been-the-fatal-risks-of-covid-particularly-to-children-and-younger-adults-a5cbf7060c49
(table from 2/7 down the page...)
5) When this became apparent, initial scare stories in press about children dying of virus, later proven to have no merit, just to ensure the hysteria was generalised. Meanwhile, probability of a child dying from the 'virus' is 35m to 1.

https://preview.redd.it/exxx18mdn8c51.png?width=2224&format=png&auto=webp&s=d9f00fd75d396a945a4244eab07b37325706eca3
"The second row shows that 2 deaths have been recorded among over 7 million school children aged between 5 and 14 (around 1 in 3.5 million), an extremely low risk — although additional deaths may be reported following coroners’ investigations. Over the last five years, there has been an average of 94 deaths registered over this 9-week period for those aged 5–14, and so the 2 Covid deaths represents only 2% of the normal risk faced by this group. That is, whatever average risk they would have faced in these 9 weeks if Covid had never existed — a risk which was extraordinarily low — was increased by Covid by only 2%."
from: https://medium.com/wintoncentre/what-have-been-the-fatal-risks-of-covid-particularly-to-children-and-younger-adults-a5cbf7060c49
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/08/kawasaki-like-disease-affecting-children-caused-coronavirus/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8264135/UK-says-children-died-syndrome-linked-COVID-19.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8316223/Up-100-British-children-mysterious-inflammatory-disease-linked-COVID-19.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8278963/Ill-youngsters-directly-exposed-corona-victims-refused-tests-medics.html
6) The ludicrous claim that they had never considered economic and psychological DEATH toll of lockdown.
There was a press conference in June on BBC, where they said "saving lives" from the virus was considered more important. Hard to believe, but I can't find the footage yet...
"One of the most consistent themes that emerges from the minutes of SAGE meetings is how the Government repeatedly expected its scientists to account for the economic impact of lockdown restrictions – even though SAGE was not doing any economic modelling."
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/03/sagegate-part-one-treasury-and-downing-street-advisors-delayed-covid-19-lockdown/
7) Doctors globally openly being told they can save paperwork and earn money by basing cause of death on ASSUMPTION of COVID, based on the vaguest of pretexts and symptoms.
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid19-cause-death-certificate-pcom-20200401.html
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/anti-vax-doctor-covid-19-death-certificates-984407/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlGkCABfyLw
Also, from the UK...Health Secretary Matt Hancock calls for urgent review into coronavirus death data in England.
It follows confirmation from Public Health England that reported deaths may have included people who tested positive months before they died.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53443724
8) The propaganda campaign against any form of alternative to vaccine (Vitamin C and D, African cures, HCQ etc)
“The Government’s leading body for Covid19 drug trials – led by the controversial character Professor Peter Horby – Oxford’s Professor of Emerging Infectious Diseases and Global Health and heading the vaccine programme - stands accused of grossly misleading negative trial results for the coronavirus management drug Hydroxychloroqhine. (Conflict of interest, surely?)
The lead story in today’s France Soir – a long-respected and unaligned French daily – presents compelling evidence to suggest that the Whitehall/Cabinet Covid19 “advice” team cannot be trusted….and raises yet more doubts about BBC complicity in a false Coronavirus narrative.”
https://jonsnewplace.wordpress.com/2020/06/22/explosive-more-uk-covid-experts-facing-serious-data-manipulation-charges/
http://www.francesoir.fsociete-sante/remdesivir-une-molecule-dinteret-therapeutique-tres-discutable-sur-le-covid-19-partie ( in French)
The [Lancet’s] claim that hydroxychloroquine increases the risk of death in Covid-19 patients has been used by rivals as a stick to beat the US President, who has himself been taking the drug and hailed it a 'game-changer' in the war on coronavirus**.**
Mounting doubts over the study's reliability culminated yesterday when the authors retracted their study from the Lancet medical journal, whose editorial standards have also been thrown into question.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8391779/Lancet-paper-warned-against-Covid-19-drug-flares-accusations-political-point-scoring.html
“The Deputy Chief Investigator of the Recovery Trial, Prof. Martin Landray, gave an interview to France-Soir. What he revealed was quite remarkable.
Firstly, the mortality rate of the hydroxychloroquine patients was a staggering 25.7%.
The recommended hydroxychloroquine dose for an adult in the UK is no more than 200 — 400 mg per day. In France, 1800 mg per day is considered to be lethal poisoning.”
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/the-hydroxychloroquine-scandal
https://time.com/5840148/coronavirus-cure-covid-organic-madagasca
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-vitamin-c-myth.html
9) The saturation of Gates into the narrative at every level. His hallowed and unquestioned presence in media as expert, the only Moses who can lead us out of this wilderness with his magic potions, release us from our prisons with his benevolence. His financial connections through BMGF to NIH, CDC, WHO, BBC, Guardian, CNN etc and of course every pharmaceutical company in existence....
https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/
Amazing Polly (pretty much every video this year):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm19xYwJ2nQ
BBC compromised:

“Transforming lives through media”? Gates and the CIA? Can we give up the pretence that neutral Auntie speaks for - or represents - us and our best interests?
Charities and foundations - without transparency, oversight and apparently universally trusted. Call your genocidal plans ‘charity’ and not only will you look like a philanthrApist, but people will even donate to their own demise.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/about/funding
EDIT: For further information, I just found this webpage:
https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/revealed-bbc-charity-receives-millions-in-funding-from-gates-foundation/
UK Guardian compromised:
Hear the Guardian is regrettably letting 180 staff go this week. Hopefully BMGF can find them suitable homes...
https://hectordrummond.com/2020/05/22/the-bill-and-melinda-gates-foundations-sponsorship-of-the-guardian/
From the article:
“This story came from a Guardian sub-section called ‘Global Development‘.
But then I came across this 2010 Guardian story about how the Guardian has started up this new ‘Global Development’ site in partnership with… the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
So much information on Gates...almost “paralysed” with possibilities. Ideas?
10) Recent US and UK stories where people clearly dying of other things - cancer, suicide, motorcycle accidents etc are ascribed to COVID. Officially, George Floyd’s death should have been ascribed to COVID, since I believe he tested positive during autopsy. Might have led to a very different world...
https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-floyd-death-autopsy-coronavirus-protests-a9548386.html
HighImpactFix video about case number “massage” and motorcycle anomalies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olz03OPeijM&feature=youtu.be
11) Recent US and UK stories of the deceitful practices by which:
i) the case numbers are conflated with all death numbers on certain days
ii) Dying "of" vs "with" COVID
iii) anyone who dies after testing positive is a COVID death
iv) cases being reported and subliminally conflated with deaths by the media, when death numbers fell too low to keep the public sufficiently terrified to accept coming measures
v) case numbers merely made up or inflated by a factor of ten, in Florida’s case last week.
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/
Too many to include all here, but the recent Florida 'mistake' is here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/florida-labs-found-significantly-inflating-positive-covid-testing-rate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta7g8BgKAXE
If this is a genuine event, what possible reason would there be to commit fraud in so many ways to keep it looking genuine, besides the need to control demolish the world economy and vaccine-shill?
12) Event 201. Drill gone live. Nuff said.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/videos.html
CORBETT REPORT:
https://www.corbettreport.com/mml2020/
Amazing Polly:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7O5RylrMUV8F/
13) The fact that there have been no surprises at all since the crisis began. Every next step had been telegraphed in the media well in advance. Everything began with the notion that a vaccine would be the only solution and the narrative has remained remarkably consistent to Event201.
14) Even with all of these statistical somersaults, the death numbers this year are not far from what they’ve been in previous years. Pneumonia and flu deaths are suspiciously down.

2020 - 6509 flu deaths in five months (Feb-June)
2020 - 6509 flu deaths in five months (Feb-June)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1113051/number-reported-deaths-from-covid-pneumonia-and-flu-us/
Compared with:

2019- Flu killed 34,157 - more than twice amount for a similar period of five months this year.
2019 Flu killed 34,157 - more than twice amount for a similar period of five months this year.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124915/flu-deaths-number-us/
MUCH, MUCH MORE DATA NEEDED HERE....
15) That in the space of four months, they have managed to capitalise on this crisis and remove so many rights from us permanently. An opportunity for which they’ve been waiting for years, COVID sped up the process and kept us otherwise preoccupied.
Here is my list of achieved or achievable hidden agenda:
In no particular order:
  1. Controlled demolition of the stock market/ global economy. Global reset etc
  2. Transhumanist/ AI rollout (post-human, Gates patents for human batteries linked with cryptocurrency (60606). https://news.bitcoin.com/microsoft-cryptocurrency-system/
  3. Vaccine adulation and promotion (Gates etc promising vaccine = release from captivity - pharmaceutical companies in league with WHO to drum up mandatory sales)
  4. Expediting the climate change agenda, conflating it with the virus as a call for world government and global sustainability.
  5. Plus RFID/ ID2020 tracking through vaccines (mark of the beast, without which no transaction/ employment will be possible)
  6. Demonisation and eradication of cash (total financial dominion)
  7. Mass unemployment and Universal Credit system linked to Social Credit.
  8. Bank (and corporate) bailouts – this time round it looks legitimate and necessary, no public outcry.
  9. Using and conditioning us to the concept of quarantining as a future method of control should there be any hint of unrest.
  10. Cultification of the NHS to the point of a unifying religion (clapping and donations and lionisation of medical staff during what must be the quietest time in their history)
  11. Legitimation of multiculturalism and immigration (race-baiting through NHS and volunteers, #youclapforusnow
  12. A shot in the arm for the MSM and government as a whole: no longer irrelevant and dying, people watching 24-7 since pandemic. Taking attention away from alternative media.
  13. Privatisation of NHS/ public services – corporations will step in to ‘save’ us (public gratitude replacing scepticism)
  14. Makes government look noble and heroic (wartime/ WW2 mentality fostered)
  15. COVID19 as cover story for 5G radiation/ environmental pollution/ vaccine damage etc
  16. Mass Surveillance – using 5G ‘for our safety’ to track and trace
  17. Opportunity to pass draconian laws against human rights (assembly, sectioning, travel, speech)
  18. Social alienation/ conformity as preference/ patriotic duty
  19. Prevention of assembly in order to protest draconian laws
  20. Depopulation in stages (elderly first, then with vaccines and suicides/ bankruptcy etc due to system collapse)
  21. Censorship of social media and social discourse in general
  22. Installation of 5G during lockdown to avoid scrutiny
  23. Effecting the transition of the workplace, shopping district and school to the home, ending community and all nourishing human interactions.
  24. The ‘new normal’ - social revolution and culture creation through social distancing/ queuing for shops/reinvention of the word essential/ mask wearing etc
  25. Destruction of small and medium sized businesses and the high street in general
  26. Fauci’s early dismissive comments about virus, herd immunity and futility of masks, before the script was revised.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-fauci-in-march-masks-make-you-feel-a-little-bit-better-but-unnecessary-for-general-population-warns-of-unintended-consequences
”You don’t need a mask.”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHsEmlIoE4
To the NEJM, he described COVID in March as a flu, with similar numbers predicted to suffer.
“WOW! Dr. Fauci in New England Journal of Medicine Concedes the Coronavirus Mortality Rate May Be Much Closer to a Very Bad Flu”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/wow-dr-fauci-in-new-england-journal-of-medicine-concedes-the-coronavirus-mortality-rate-may-be-much-closer-to-a-very-bad-flu/
Why the u-turn? Surely we define our experts by their consistency.
F William Engdahl article:
https://fort-russ.com/amp/2020/04/shedding-light-on-the-dishonorable-record-of-dr-fauci-a-real-mengele/
Christine Grady (Fauci’s wife):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkYen0g4TRU
17) Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock and Nadine Dorries - The statistical chances (14%) of three members of the UK Cabinet (made up of 22 people), including the prime minister, actually catching it and one almost dying apparently, right before reversing his decision to let it pass.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-list-of-senior-government-figures-affected-by-coronavirus
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51827356
A very intentionally dramatic start to our lockdown, announced by Johnson from his "death-bed", ensuring all were in the appropriate state of panic:
"Boris Johnson: Hospital doctors were ready to announce my death"
https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-hospital-doctors-were-ready-to-announce-my-death/
18) Meanwhile, racism knocks the virus off the front pages and our minds for a few weeks, but we’re meant to go right back to taking it seriously when requested.
https://summit.news/2020/06/05/1200-public-health-experts-sign-letter-advocating-mass-gatherings-because-white-supremacy-is-a-bigger-threat-than-covid-19/
19) The many proven fake media stories...of long lines for testing and hospital footage from NY, mannequins in beds etc
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cbs-news-accused-by-project-veritas-of-faking-footage-in-michigan-coronavirus-testing-report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BUBTtUTOII
https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/cbs-admits-to-using-footage-from-italy-in-report-about-nyc/
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-video-operating-dummy-coron/partly-false-claim-video-shows-doctors-operating-on-a-dummy-to-exaggerate-extent-of-coronavirus-crisis-idUSKBN21P2Q8
20) International care home scandals - Deliberately mandating coronavirus carriers into crowded care homes to bump up death toll and concomitant hysteria, kill off elderly...murder?
"It is remarkable how many deaths during this pandemic have occurred in care homes. According to the Office for National Statistics, nearly 50,000 care home deaths were registered in the 11 weeks up to 22 May in England and Wales — 25,000 more than you would expect at this time of the year. Two out of five care homes in England have had a coronavirus outbreak; in the north-east, it’s half.
Not all these deaths, however, have been attributed to Covid-19. Even when death certificates do mention it, it is not always clear that it is the disease that was the ultimate cause of death..."
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/dying-of-neglect-the-other-covid-care-home-scandal
"The daughter of a 91-year-old gran who died of Covid-19 she contracted in a care home is demanding to know why her mum was “sacrificed” by ministers.
Retired teacher Anne Duncan died in Edinburgh’s Western General Hospitaltwo days after her family managed to force a move out of the care home in the city where they feared she would die alone.
Her daughter Linda hit out at what she called a “scandalous” policy to release coronavirus patients into care homes and called for her mum’s death to be investigated as part of a wider review."
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/health/scots-gran-who-died-covid-22172074
Also, more than 40% of US ‘virus‘ deaths occur in nursing homes:
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/504885-over-40-percent-of-us-covid-19-deaths-are-linked-to-nursing-homes-nyt
21) (thanks to law of confusion!) Ventilators - All of the sudden, a clamour for them generated panic demand and buying. Cuomo desperate, while he sat in front of a warehouse wall full of them. Hegelian dialectics at play. Trump apparently withholding, Trump giving them out like Oprah, then the evidence that they were killing most people on them.
“A giant study that examined outcomes for more than 2,600 patients found an extraordinarily high 88% death rate among Covid-19 patients in the New York City area who had to be placed on mechanical devices to help them breathe.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study
22) Testing inconsistencies:
Half of CDC Coronavirus Test Kits Are Inaccurate, Study Finds.
”The study's lead author, Sin Hang Lee, MD, director of Milford Molecular Diagnostics Laboratory, found that the testing kits gave a 30 percent false-positive rate and a 20 percent false-negative rate.”https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/half-of-cdc-coronavirus-test-kits-are-inaccurate-study-finds/ar-BB16S6M6
“According to the creator of the PCR test, Kary Mullis himself, it cannot be totally and should never be used as a tool in “the diagnosis of infectious diseases.”
https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/
Also, this about CT testing irregularities:
https://www.thewesterlysun.com/news/covid-19/connecticut-says-it-found-testing-flaw-90-false-positives/article_91811362-a9b3-53ab-9485-00067ce9e0d5.html
Funny how all the “mistakes” err on the side of positive...
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[Table] IamAn editor at the Chinese government's official news agency. AMA!

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How does Xinhua come up with ideas for slideshows? They are a little different than slideshows you might expect from Reuters or AP. HAHAHA dude. The Xinhua slideshows are a running joke in my department. If enough people bother me to do so, I'll post some of the more ridiculous ones. I want to meet the guy who's responsible for those so badly. But there is little to no communication between departments here, so I don't even know whodunit. I'm only responsible for editing stories, photo stuff is an entirely different unit. Edit: "embarrassed by tight sport pants" has some gnarly cameltoe action, maybe NSFW. Unless you work for a porn company. Or Xinhua, evidently.
Please post more ridiculous slide shows! "Terrible! Women get too drunk"
Link to news.xinhuanet.com
"Funny photos of people who got stuck"
Link to news.xinhuanet.com
Isn't it risky to do an AMA like this, especially after calling your workplace "Orwellian"? The "Orwellian" bit only applies to the news that comes through my office, not the websites I use during my personal time.
I would've imagined they don't like employees talking about censorship or "insider" information. Oh they don't, you're right about that. But they're also painfully oblivious to anything that is published or written outside of their sphere. Most of them don't even pay attention to major foreign news outlets, let alone Reddit.
You are naive. it is easy to find out who you are I'm aware of how easy it is to find out who I am. Still not fussed about it.
So are you still alive? Dr. Mantis Toboggan?? I'm VERY alive.
I heard you have a monster dong.
You get Its Always Sunny in China? Do you guys have netflix? No Netflix, but torrents work most of the time.
Is there any mention about the pollution there? I mean, is the govt actively doing something, perhaps finding what cause it? Link to blogs.wsj.com
Link to www.bbc.co.uk
Link to www.theguardian.com
Basically the Chinese public have started to focus more on the importance of protecting the environment and have therefore forced the government to pay attention to the issue.
Nothing scares the Chinese government more than social unrest - their greatest priority is ensuring that the general public won't flip out en masse and kick them out of power. Their efforts to reduce pollution are really just token efforts - Chinese industry is massive and produces ridiculous amounts of pollutants. But at this point they have to do something.
Is "Silent Spring" available in a Chinese edition? I don't know, but it should be. The Chinese need their own "Silent Spring".
Edit: since you mentioned a Chinese version of a controversial book, I'd like to note that I've purchased an English-language copy of "1984" right here in Beijing, from some dude on the street with a cart full of books. A Chinese friend of mine has the same book - in Chinese. Wacky, no? Like how/where did that ever get printed?
How 'free' is Sina Weio? Is anything ever censored on it? Sina Weibo is technically a private company, but they are still subject to Chinese law. To that end, they engage in a fair amount of self-censoring. I believe they've gone on record as saying that they employ a number of people who comb through posts for anything sensitive.
That being said, the vast majority of muckraking done by the Chinese public over the last year or so has been done via Sina Weibo.
Why so much fear of social unrest? It's not like a populist revolution is brewing. No seriously. There are so many folks here that if some kind of social movement caught on and a lot of people started protesting, the government would be literally overrun. There was an environmental protest in south China last year (I think?) where local residents actually swarmed a government office building.
I thought more people would use QQ or 人人 more then Sina Weibo? More people almost certainly use QQ, although I'm actually not sure about the precise figures. I just know Weibo has blown up the last couple years.
When I lived in China people used "中国人太多了!" as an excuse for everything! Precisely.
Is there any sense that China is overpopulated? Every time I get on the subway.
What is the largest story that you've had to 'ignore' due to government pressure or interests? I haven't had to "ignore" a story, per se, since I'm not actually a reporter on the front lines. Most of our stories are handed to us anyway via press releases or statements from government spokesmen.
I do recall one particularly troubling day. July 24, 2011 was a Sunday. I was working the weekend shift - it's usually a slow shift, with only one foreign editor on duty (me).
On the night of July 23rd, two high-speed trains collided on a railway in Wenzhou, a city in east China's Zhejiang Province. A few dozen people were killed and a couple hundred were injured.
There were so many stories about the train crash the next day, and I had to edit all of them. The stories I edited seemed to clash with accounts written by foreign media - it wasn't long before the Chinese government was caught red-handed trying to downplay the incident.
Domestic media were instructed not to send reporters to the scene of the crash, and stories about it were intentionally suppressed or relegated to the back pages of newspapers. But between eyewitness accounts and reports from foreign media, many Chinese quickly came to realize that the government was trying to keep the whole thing under wraps.
The backlash was almost immediate. The crash came at a time when Sina Weibo, the Chinese equivalent of Twitter, was first becoming popular. People were posting photos from the crash, citing their own theories for what happened...I suppose it was not unlike what happened after 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombings.
In the end, former Railway Minster Liu Zhijun took the fall for the crash. He'd been previously accused of corruption anyway, and this incident was the last straw. Other high-level officials were sacrificed as well.
I didn't have to ignore that story, but it stayed with me for a long time. I was dating a Chinese woman at the time, and she was in tears when I came home after work. She couldn't believe that her own government would try to hide the facts behind something so horrific, although I know she knows it's not the first time China's government has done so. I told her that governments do that all the time. Didn't really make much of a difference though.
Your role there does sound positively Orwellian. Do you really notice specific correlations between your situation and that of 1984? Heh. I went into journalism because I realized I could write my way out of a wet paper bag but I didn't want to become a novelist and starve and/or become an English professor.
I don't mean to put you down, but doesn't this job bring up any internal ethical conflicts for you? Is this really what you went into journalism to do? I do have conflicts about what I do. I have conflicts about what I do at work, what I do in my personal life. I contradict my own beliefs and attitudes all the time. I'm a huge hypocrite. Constantly. But I pay my rent and pay my taxes and have enough left over to get me through the day. Ask any journalist who works for a major news organization and see what they have to say about ethical conflicts.
China's surveillance, censorship, human rights, food quality, pollution and other issues make it seem like a dark and orwellian place to live. But what is it really like there? It's actually pretty chill here for the most part. Food safety issues have become more visible in recent years, but some say that's actually because food inspectors are getting more strict, which is obviously a good thing. The air quality does suck ass, but unless you're living here for years and years or have some kind of medical condition, it's not actually that dangerous.
Do people speak freely amongst themselves about the government, if not publicly? Surveillance...ya know, there's a camera on every corner. And no one is watching it. I say and do shit that would probably get me in trouble all the time, but no one ever comes knocking. So to answer your third question, people bitch about the government all the time - publicly, no less. Chinese social media is full of people complaining about the government.
I don't think your ethical conflict is similar to those faced by actual journalists. That's true - they have greater flexibility in terms of being able to "take the high road" or not. I can keep working for the Chinese government...or quit.
That's a very strange and unexpected story. Things really aren't as bleak or grim over here as you'd be led to believe. Naturally I can only speak for my own experience as a foreigner living in the capital - there is certainly some dark shit that goes down elsewhere in the country - but my own experience has been largely decent.
On the other hand, many young Chinese I speak to seem eager to leave the country. Some have the aforementioned food and pollution concerns, others want to do business and develop themselves in an environment that rewards their creativity and integrity.
Chinese office culture - one could say Chinese culture in general - is very much about forming relationships with people more powerful than yourself and leveraging those relationships. Lots of ass-kissing and gift-giving. I've met several Chinese who don't care to do things this way.
What is your responsibility in terms of censoring? My company, like most state-owned media, does not engage in a lot of investigative journalism. In fact, most of the information our reporters use to write their stories is spoon-fed in the form of press releases, statements from government spokesmen and public notices issued by various government departments. Naturally, any kind of controversial or damaging content is omitted from that information before our reporters even receive it.
Chinese state media do not use what I would call "active" censorship, where they're actually removing information or otherwise deliberately altering content. It's more passive - the information just isn't provided in the first place. There have been many times when I've tried to clarify a story, only to be told by the writer and/or translator: "we don't have that information."
So would you regard it as a bit like the scene in "Good Morning Vietnam" where the news comes over a telex and then the military censors cross out what can and can't be mentioned on the radio? Hahaha I wish I worked with Robin Williams. I don't know if it's really like that, but it's conceivable. It's more like there's just a lack of transparency and accountability - for instance, government officials are not required to provide their names to journalists.
Did the Chinese govt censor anything on Edward Snowden? Who?
No, of course I know who he is. But if you ask the Chinese government, that's the answer you'll get. The Chinese media doesn't actively censor - it just ignores everything the government doesn't like. Edward Snowden doesn't exist, as far as Xinhua is concerned.
Link to news.xinhuanet.com
Link to www.cbsnews.com
Link to www.huffingtonpost.com
Link to shanghaiist.com
Link to www.channelnewsasia.com
Wait, seriously? I've been in China for the past few weeks on vacation, and everybody here seems to love Snowden, if they know who he is. Yep - it was my own bias, I never read anything about Snowden because I work in the domestic department. See my reply below.
I'm confused, I'm looking at Link to www.xinhuanet.com right now and snowden is mentioned in one of the articles. Yeah I fucked that up - working in domestic news will do that to you. Check my reply below.
What are your responsibilities at Xinhua? Are you a foreigner working as an editor for their English material or a Mainland Chinese editor? I'm a foreigner working in the English department, yes. I edit domestic news exclusively, but we publish both domestic and international news in multiple languages.
Thanks. So how did you end up working at Xinhua? Why did you want to work there? Journalism background or just looking for work that builds on your English expertise? Well, I came to China as an economic refugee from the United States, basically. I graduated with a journalism degree at a time when the journalism industry was (still is? I'm pretty sure?) looking pretty grim in the U.S. and elsewhere. A couple friends recommended that I do an internship at a Chinese English-language newspaper and I worked my way up from there.
I don't even really refer to myself as a journalist anymore, not when I'm working for Xinhua. It's a weird and kind of depressing place to work sometimes, but it's also fairly laid-back and pays decently for the amount of work I'm required to do. I don't love it but it pays the bills and doesn't make me want to kill myself. Maybe I'm setting my sights too low, but I feel like that's pretty okay for a hack like me.
Interesting. Do you work closely with any of the Mainland reporters or is it mostly foreigners in your department? I work with a few foreign copy editors and dozens of Chinese reporters/translators/editors.
Anyone else have a palpable taste of WTF after reading that?... someone left American journalism to work in Chinese journalism. America is unfortunately extremely unsafe for true journalism, just ask Michael Hastings... wait, nvm. To be clear, I didn't decide to work in Chinese journalism because I disliked the U.S. journalism industry (although I do). It was more that there just weren't any jobs at that time. The industry is still in rough shape and I'm not even sure if I'll continue to do journalism when I move back home.
I find it sounds quite cool what you're doing, given the opportunity I'd do it, but I still get paid too well to become an economic refugee ;-). 你的中文好吗? 我中文说的就是一般般.
Have you joined the communist party yet? Can't and wouldn't want to. Well, maybe. Some of those folks do reaaal well for themselves.
Do you feel like you have more freedoms than the average Chinese citizen? Did you have any connections to China or any asian countries before the move? Are you a visible minority over there, if so do you experience xenophobia/racism? No connections to China or any other Asian countries beforehand, although I always thought Japan was awesome because video games and porn. In some ways I guess I am more free than the average Chinese citizen - for one thing, I make a better salary than most Chinese who have the same experience/educational background as me, and I probably work less hours than a lot of them. But this comes at an expense - there is no way I will ever be promoted or gain any kind of seniority at my company. Only Chinese can do that at state-owned companies. In Beijing, I'm certainly a visible minority, but not that visible. There are tons of foreigners in this city - the only racism I've experienced has been from Chinese who've migrated here from elsewhere or from other foreigners.
If you made the same salary in America as you do in China would you have moved/consider going back? If I made the same salary in the States, it'd really depend where I was living. I don't think I make enough now to live in LA or Chicago or somewhere like that.
你是牛屄! COW VAGINA YO.
Seriously how did they even decide that that means "badass." The fuck, China. The fuck. It's an Oriental Mystery.
你有没有觉得一些人有一点儿二在你的单位? As a kid born in Canada I never understood why they referred to weird/eccentric people as "two" lol. Hahahaha I have an 二锅头 shirt that is a play on the "Absolut" ads, it says "约对二" in Chinese (obviously) and "Absolut 2" in English. The Chinese think it's hysterical.
Do people discuss politics in the office ? All the time. One of my Chinese bosses loves to ask me about American rights and laws. My favorite quote?
"If I were an American politician, I would make it mandatory to own a gun."
I'd like to hear a little more about this. What kind of stuff does your boss ask/want to know? Are they surprised by what you tell them. What do they think about rights/laws in America? Most of the Chinese I discuss politics with are either in their early 20s early to mid 30s. They're all fairly well-educated and are familiar with western history and media. They're rarely, if ever, surprised with what I tell them about the States - although it depends on the question, I suppose. They just like comparing and contrasting U.S./China policy. They mirror each other in strange ways sometimes.
I think a lot of Chinese do envy some of the laws and rights we have in the States, but at the same time, they are intensely defensive of China's policies, as backward as some of them may seem to us.
Why did you decide to move to China? Pros and Cons vs living in the US? Pros: living costs are low, the language/culture are interesting, dating can be fun and the food is delicious.
Cons: salaries are low, the language/culture are hard to understand and deal with, dating is hellish and the food can kill you.
Elaborate on the dating? I was always under the impression Chinese girls were very conservative and didnt like to mix much with westerners. Depends on which ones you meet. Many Chinese women are curious about foreigners, but these are often the ones you don't want to date because their understanding of foreign culture is almost entirely informed by American Idol, Big Bang Theory, Friends and other shitty TV shows. Finding a Chinese woman who is liberal, opinionated, smart and all that other good stuff is hard to do. Although it's admittedly easier in the bigger Chinese cities.
Is Chinese celebrity news as highly reported as in America? Depends on what you mean by highly reported. China doesn't have trashy tabloid-esque "news" shows like there are in the States (as far as I know), but they do like to dig up dirt on celebrities. My employers don't run stories like that, but the Chinese do like to gossip about celebs on Sina Weibo (the Chinese equivalent of Twitter) and other social media sites.
One interesting difference is that some U.S. celebrities embrace the fame they gain from unflattering reports/revelations - Kim Kardashian became famous for fucking some shitty DJ - while Chinese celebrities try to avoid those kind of exposures. Chinese society is considerably more conservative than that of the U.S., so any kind of sex/gambling/etc. scandal is much more damaging for a Chinese celeb.
Edison Chen ftw. Aw man. Chen's my boy. Seriously I need to make some famous Chinese friends.
China doesn't have trashy tabloid-esque "news" shows like there are in the States. In exchange you guys have a bazillion talent competition and matchmaking shows. Yeesh. Hahaha true. God those are ridiculous and cheesy.
So what REALLY happened at Tienanmen Square? Well, I probably shouldn't talk about this. But if you really want to know...
First, a bunch of students showed up. Like a huge bunch. And they were calling for democracy and human rights and all this crazy stuff. And then the military showed up with tanks and guns and shit and then the protesters' lives got flipped-turned upside down and I'd like to take a minute just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air.
That's what really happened.
On the one hand, DPRK is entirely reliant on PRC for its continued existence, so I can imagine it would be some kind of glorious brothers in struggle sort of thing, but I get the impression Beijing is getting kinda tired of Pyongyang's shit. Beijing is so tired of Pyongyang's shit, but it's in a tough spot. Things have been quiet in recent months, but when the DPRK nuclear launch stuff was going down, Beijing was just like...fffuuu wat do.
As an editor, how do you feel when people discredit your news agency? Do you feel like they are justified and do you compare yourself to a BBC or another news company? People who discredit Xinhua are somewhat in the right - but our lack of journalistic integrity isn't actually our fault, if you can believe that. We just don't do investigative reporting - we're essentially another arm of the government. We're more akin to the White House PR department than the BBC or Reuters. So I can't really take their criticism too harshly.
Are you a foreigner? How many times a day do you hear "laowai"? I mostly just hear HALLOOO.
How would you define China's relationship with the United States? Mutually beneficial win-win cooperation that features interdependent co-supportive friendly relations.
Just kidding. We're pretty different but we have to get our shit together - together - otherwise both sides will just be fucked.
Would it be possible for an average chinese citizen to access this AMA? Meant to reply to this earlier. ggandthecrew is absolutely right - fear of anti-communist ideas is only half the picture. Most of China's web censorship is done to boost domestic consumption - block Twitter, so Chinese have to use Sina Weibo. Block YouTube so Chinese have to use Youku. Block Facebook so they have to use Renren. It's just as much an economic tool as a social one.
Is part of the reason they block those large sites so that Chinese companies can fill the void and reap the profits? I mean, even a half a billion new Facebook accounts would really generate a lot of money. Exactly. It's partly driven by the need to expand domestic consumption.
I'm trying to imagine a Chinese version of Reddit. Is there anything that comes close? Sort of, actually. There are message boards (Tianya and Mop) that are basically news portals that Chinese can comment on. If you check out www.chinasmack.com, you can find a lot of stories that are lifted from these message boards, along with translated versions of netizens' comments. It's actually a really interesting and informative window into Chinese beliefs and attitudes.
Do they also block foreign sites like Facebook, Twitter, Gmail etc. in order to prevent NSA spying or is that just a new excuse that they've come up with post-Snowden? All the sites you mentioned were blocked or messed with well before Snowden's revelation. The blocking is done to keep "harmful information" hidden, but also to boost use of domestic sites that provide similar services.
Are you familiar with Bitcoin? If so, do you know what the government's stance on it is? I remember there was a pretty positive article about them by Xinhua not too long ago. Thanks! You know what, I haven't actually seen any stories about Bitcoin come through Xinhua. I'm not all that familiar with it myself. But if the article you mention was indeed positive, that's as good as a stamp of approval from the government itself, more or less.
I believe decentralization is key to keeping markets honest, including journalism. Do you support a government-owned news agency and how do you feel about private agencies? And are private agencies allowed to go by different rules or are they heavily regulated by the Chinese government? Chinese media was, for a long time, almost exclusively state-owned. However, this has changed in recent years, as the government is seeking to wean state-owned companies off of the government's tit and expand private industry in order to stimulate consumption. Private media is still heavily regulated and relatively scarce in terms of size and influence, but it will likely grow in the years to come.
I don't support government-owned news because it flies in the face of what I believe "news" should be. But then, U.S. media has very much been in the lap of the government for years.
Also a current journalism undergrad considering living abroad after I graduate in May. I'm not necessarily looking for journalism work, either, though, as the job market is still crap unless you're creme-de-la-creme and have tons of legit experience under your belt. I am curious, though, what motivated you to move to Asia? Were you serious about wanting to find work in journalism abroad, or did you just want to leave America in general, and this job made the most sense once you got there? I honestly didn't care what kind of work I found - at that point, I was just grasping at straws. I had journalist friends who had much more extensive and impressive resumes than I did - and these people were working the counter at American Eagle, shit like that. No jobs to be found for anyone, qualified or not. So no. I wasn't necessarily interested in working in Asia, or working as a reporter in Asia, or even working as a reporter. I just needed a fucking job. Everything else unfolded after I arrived.
You said that you moved from abroad for the work...did you have any connection to China at all, beforehand? Little to no connection to China beforehand. A couple of my good friends had done internships at the same newspaper I ended up interning at, they kind of goaded me into it and I ended up living here along with them.
Also, are there more foreigners like you in your department? There are other foreigners in my department, yes. Foreigners like me? Son, they don't make foreigners like me anymore.
Do you think the Wang Qishan and the Xi Jinping regime are actually making inroads against corruption, or are they mining stories to satisfy a witch-hunting lust for public show? They're making a token effort. I won't pretend to be an expert on the inner workings of the Standing Committee, but from what I know, corruption is what greases the gears of the CPC. Too many government-corporate relationships would dissolve if they truly wanted to get rid of corruption. The economy would be a shambles. Not unlike that of the U.S., really. Too big to fail? China is too big to fail in so many ways.
How overt is the censorship? Does it ever get brought up in meetings, or is it all kinda hush-hush? I live in Shanghai, and I've had to deal with censorship in one way or another, and it seems like there is no official criteria. Since you actually work for the government, do you have an official list of topics the government thinks is not promoting harmonious society? Hahaha. Yeah, it's not overt at all. It happens before it even hits my desk - no official criteria or anything. Although I've had several occasions where an editor will come over and say "hey. This article is sensitive. Don't change anything other than the spelling and grammar."
How is it like living in China? I have a friend who goes to university there, and he uses Facebook, so either it isn't blocked there (or he got through the filter, I dunno). What sites are blocked there, actually? What Craigox27 said - proxy/VPN services are cheap and easy to purchase. Most young Chinese have them as well. Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, NY Times and Blogspot are blocked, among many, many others.
Then one wonders what's the point of blocking sites if they can be bypassed so easily. A lot of the things the Chinese government does make little to no sense. And as Dr. Ian Malcolm once said, "life finds a way." AKA Male Chinese adolescents find a way (to look at porn).
You can't say most young Chinese have proxy and VPN. Maybe amongst educated white collar in the media industry, but not in the general population. True, young rural Chinese likely aren't aware of or do not have such software, as most of them don't have computers either. But young Chinese who have computer access are generally aware of them, I would argue.
What news website would you recommend for non-Chinese speakers to read about daily news in China (like Chinasmack)? You picked my favorite already. I would also recommend BeijingCream, the Shanghaiist and Ministry of Tofu.
Late to the party- what's your opinion of the Epoch Times? Of course it can't be gotten in China, but it's quite available in N. America and Europe- any thoughts? To be honest, I'm not that familiar with them, although I realize I really ought to be. I should read up!
What do you believe is the responsibility of the news media in Chinese society? Are you able to talk about how China is different from other countries' media in that respect? Edit: sorry, I feel like I didn't fully answer your question. News media in China largely has no responsibility other than to its sponsor - the government. But there is so much new media content in the form of microblogs and videos that is really heartening. Citizen journalism is blowing up in China and it's awesome.
Is it true that you guys have a plan to take over the whole world? It's the same thing I do every night, Pinky.
What is your future prospect in the agency as a foreigner? do you want to transfer to a different department? I see that you typed some Chinese characters, so how good is your Chinese now? Future prospects? Few exist for foreigners at state-owned companies. I've heard of foreigners with excellent Chinese and networking skills getting promotions, but those are few and far between and I have neither the patience nor skill to go that route. I am transferring to a different department where I will get to learn some new things, but I'm probably headed back to the States in a couple years. There is little to no room for upward movement here, career-wise.
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